Forum for residents of St Georges Park and Long Leys Road Lincoln

[deb]

We had an offer previously of a salt station by 'the shop' and though this was put under the 'good idea' pile no one actually thought they would go down there with their bucket and spade and use it especially given that the roads are at their worst the further up the estate you go as traffic gets less and less. We may be able to revisit this for next year so in case that is so, and while snow and ice are a near memory, would anyone actually go and fetch salt from here to use or is it still a good idea but practically, no, it would not be used?

As a community thing of course, if we all went with a large bucket and did the bit outside our house the whole estate could be safe from falls and skids...

Thoughts on either, anything!?

[SteveW]

In this day & age I would suspect if you did your own gritting/salting outside your own property as suggested and someone had an accident, you would be liable.

Hopefully ONCE the estate roads are adopted, as a minimum gritting along the bus route should be carried out by the council and maybe the NHS, with ALL their added activity will treat the remaining approach roads.

[deb]

You cynic, I don't even want to think about being helpful as being prosecutable!! I was wondering, if activity get less and less the further up or along you go, then a salt bin would be better on the Manrico green. I don't know if the council are obligated to grit on estate roads even if there is a bus route. If you think about prosecutions there'd probably be people waiting to blame the gritter for scratches on their cars.

[James]

Hi Debs!

I think its a good idea, I'd be up for chucking a bucket full over the speed bump next to us as it was like watching dancing on ice the last time it got frozen.. I toyed with the idea of going to get some but couldn't think of any where to actually steal it from

Cheers
James

[deb]

We'll have to see if we can save you from prosecution James!
Someone has also told me about the brick bump junctioning Mercer and Berilldon - it was a skid that knocked the road sign there. The bricks are definitely worse thatn the tarmac.

[deb]

The previous offer of a grit bin was made in error as the assumption was that we, as an estate, had been adopted. We could get one almost immediately. The cost is around £150 full and delivered and most of that could be supplied via ward budgets. However, there may be a shortfall and also the very real possibility that the County would not adopt it and therefore residents would have to give funds to replenish it each year. I have turned that down. We have gone maybe 10 years without a grit station so another year to wait for adoption and the delivery of maybe a couple of bins regularly maintained and filled seemed the better idea. The two good spaces would be the green area on Manrico (landscapiong still being fought for, it hasn't been forgotten) and the wide green verge at the junction of Berilldon and Fordham. Not only is there space on these areas but the Carram/Berilldon junction which caused problems is only a spade's throw as are the brick humps that provide little or no grip at all in the ice.

[SteveW]

It certainly isn't 10 years but certain phases of the estate have been completed a good 8 years.

So it really begs the question, WHY should a Section 38 agreement take this long. It's high time these developers are refused future planning until such times as present developments are signed off and successfully handed over. They all know the reinstaement specification, so why can't they get it right the first time.

[deb]

I was guessing with the time but working off coming up 5 years here and 2 years on Maidment and all the houses in front of that were built already...

I agree with the finishing off. I have lived in numerous new houses and never has the completion taken so long. Wilsons have been great at coming back and sorting things swiftly when needed but surely the Council should be doing a lot more to conclude the estate as a whole. Each time I write I am met with apologies and reasons but still things grind to a halt when, like Persimmons, nothing seems to be handed over when someone leaves. I think all new estates should have reduced Council Tax, say 10%, until adoption has been completed, then there would be incentive for the council to follow up regularly with the builders. Also of course it would be helpful to have a massive amount of money from the section 38 and actually use it if the builders are too slow!

[john shipton]

I held lengthy discussions with Dave Underwood of Highways with the backing of WERA to get our small estate adopted. Fortunately the was a financial bond in place which could be used against failure of the developer to complete outstanding remedial road and footpath work. Our developer was Westbury Homes which was taken over by Persimmons. Residents on our estate kept the pressure on for completion.
With St Georges Park, no financial bond was placed by the original two developers. The fault lies at both City Council and County Council who should have supervised the situation and well as the development.
There was assurances made before the building of the urban village began about community facilities and these were given at a number of consultation meetings arranged by Lincoln City Council, especially officers who dealt with the planning application. Residents from Albion Crescent, Albion Grove, Long Leys Road and surrounding area attended them. The result has been nothing so far.
It is upto what local residents wish to do next. And especially what is happening or not happening to the former SEC site. Both Councils don't appear to have an agreement between themselves. But I understand that this site is likely to be sold off this year? But for what is being discussed!

[deb]

With the County Council now agreeing to take over the maintenance and filling of a salt station when the estate is adopted, I applied for another lot of monies from the ward budgets (Helen Heath funded the Carol Service) and Karen Lee and Neil Murray have funded a grit station so many thanks to them. The salt has just arrived and the station to put it in should arrive this week too. This station will be positioned by the electricity station on Manrico Drive so when you see the bin, there will be salt in it. Feel free to help yourselves for use on the estate.

[SteveW]

Karen Lee wouldn't be representing Labour by any chance would she?????????????


........Just wondered with the impending general elections around the corner!!!!


Must remind myself to disconnect the door bell and wrap sponge around my door knocker.

[deb]

No politics involved! The Ward Budgets are there for community projects. I'd been to Helen Heath for the Carol Service so went to Karen Lee for the grit station. She did not have quite enough money left so Neil Murray put some to it.

As a group the LLRA can ask for funding and there is also another pot mentioned on a previous thread that we may be able to access. No one has put any further ideas over as yet...

[deb]

the salt bin has now arrived on the Manrico green area if we get any late bad weather.

[deb]

The salt bin (complete with salt) has disappeared. At first, because the workmen are storing stuff on the Manrico Green,I thought they'd hidden it behind stuff but I'm told not (haven't been down yet myself). I will try and find them tomorrow and ask questions but meanwhile anyone seen it or know of its whereabouts?

[matt_lincoln]

I'm pretty sure its not behind the equipment, I noticed that it had gone a little while ago. Unfortunately I was being a little bit naive and assumed someone had taken it away over the warmer months to stop vandalism.

Does the equipment belong to the imbeciles at Oakwood construction who are attempting to do something with the drains and congregate round my house every blinking morning?

*grumble*

Matt